Hello, everyone! It has been too long. It’s been an incredibly busy semester for the Paperbag Writer (from a 900-page Dickens novel to two very different theatre productions: The Vagina Monologues and Shakespeare’s The Comedy of Errors), but I’m back, and with a surprise–a brand new interview with Printz Award-winning author Libba Bray! Because Libba is amazing, it’s a pretty lengthy interview, so I’m going to be posting it in two parts. Enjoy, and feel free to continue discussion in the comments…
The Paperbag Writer: What was it like finally seeing Going Bovine on bookshelves? It seems like a lot of people have been waiting for it for a long time, but I’m sure it was just as long of a process, or even longer, for you.
Libba Bray: It’s always a thrill and a bit surreal to see a book you’ve written on the shelves, a moment of, “Hey, isn’t this wild? There’s another Libba Bray and she wrote a book! I wonder if she spends time watching ‘Dr. Who’ and eating brownies, too?’”
PBW: I applaud you for making string theory and parallel universes pretty easy to understand for those of us who are more science-challenged. Have you always been interested in these ideas? Was it easy for you to write about?
LB: Oh, man! I am completely science-challenged. If you ever want to feel dumb as a box of rocks, just try to understand string theory and particle physics and parallel universes, especially if you barely passed math and were asked to drop your high school physics class by your sympathetic teacher. I would read something and retain about three words, and those were usually “the” “and” and “theory.” But yes, I’m fascinated by all of it. It’s so trippy and makes your synapses feel like they’re playing jazz drums. And eventually, it started to penetrate my gray matter a smidge. I also have the pleasure of knowing a physicist, Adam McInroy, and he sat patiently with me in my kitchen, going over things again and again. And big kudos to Brian Greene and Michio Kaku for making so much of this material accessible. (If you really want to blow your mind, try reading some of Julian Barbour’s theory on time as an illusion. But don’t do it while listening to Pink Floyd or you’ll feel really, really weird and want to lie down on the couch with your blankie for a bit.) Anyway, I absolutely loved diving into the physics, even if I constantly felt as if I were the equivalent of a mental stick figure in their Rembrandt.
PBW: Have you ever found friends in the most unlikely places, like Cameron found in Gonzo and Balter? Maybe the better question is this: Have you ever been friends with a talking garden gnome?
LB: I think I’ve found all of my friends in unlikely places. But I promised them I wouldn’t talk about that. J Many of them came from junior high and high school, and if that isn’t the unlikeliest place to find lifelong friends, I don’t know what is.
As for my friendships with talking garden gnomes, you know, what happens on the front lawn stays on the front lawn.
PBW: In the Gemma Doyle Trilogy, all of the main characters are female, and almost all of the strongest characters are teenaged girls. Do you feel that feminism has become a “dirty” word in YA lit and how important do you think it is to portray strong, female characters in YA lit? Do you feel there are enough or do we still have a long way to go?
LB: I actually think there are lots of strong female characters in YA lit. The first that comes to mind is Frankie from E. Lockhart’s quite feminist, National Book Award-nominated and Printz Honor-winning THE DISREPUTABLE HISTORY OF FRANKIE LANDAU BANKS. Go, Frankie! I don’t know that I would say that feminism has become a dirty word (and one could argue that it is a word which has always been misunderstood), but that the female experience might be suffering from some tunnel vision right now and there is room for so much more.
Look, bottom line: I think there should be room for everything. If we say that girls never fantasize about being rescued or about having the idealized male desire them, and in that desire, they somehow feel beautiful and come into their own, well, that’s denying a huge portion of female sexual fantasy. BUT…it would be nice to have the various facets of that trope explored rather than accepting it as face value, you know? Yeah, sometimes we fantasize about this and that’s cool, but what does it satisfy? Does it always work out? What would happen if the girl took on some of the male traits she covets in the boy? What if she decided that it simply wasn’t enough after all? What does it all mean? There seem to be quite a few stories being published now in which the female protagonist’s main concern is getting the guy or choosing between two guys and it stops there. And that begs the question: What is going on culturally that makes this so appealing? Or has it always been appealing and we’re just seeing a big resurgence of this particular story?
You know, when I would read romances, I always had a soft spot for the cheeky, smirking, passionate bad boy who had bedded a thousand women and who was the bane of his family’s existence because of his outrageous behavior. The rake. And then one day I had a startling realization—I was more in line with the rake than with the female characters. It really helped me to identify that sexual, cheeky aspect of myself and accept it. I’d love to see more ownership of our sexual selves in YA lit, because I think society is still obsessed with the Lolita and terrified of girls/women actually owning themselves sexually, understanding what they want, being in charge of their bodies and their sexual identities. This is why I love Annette Curtis Klaus’s BLOOD AND CHOCOLATE.
I grew up in a different era, on the heels of a still-very-present feminist struggle that included such victories as Title IX, and for my friends and me, it was much more about emancipation and finding ourselves. We wanted to be Chrissie Hynde or The Runaways. We fantasized about having our own apartments and getting out into the world. We certainly had tons of crushes, but those crushes weren’t our sole focus. I think the literature, movies, and music reflected this sense of freedom. I’m writing a book right now that is all about gender and identity, female sexuality and fantasy, and it’s tough, because I’m trying to sift through the cultural expectations/restrictions placed on women, as well as the feminist perspective, which has its own set of expectations, and find what is true for these characters, to ask them what being a young woman means, to find their narratives. Frankly, it’s kicking my ass.
I’d just like to see a much wider representation of the female experience in YA, including a lot more stories about women of color who are under-represented, in my opinion.
This is an excellent question, and one I hope we’ll keep discussing.
Stay tuned for part two, in which Libba discusses her personal library, the NYC YA lit scene, and answers the age old question: Vikings or scorceresses?